I don’t actually know what freeway is but I can guess from the description how it works. It sounds like Freeway users just won’t be able to do anything remotely close to that level of work at all. The layout between the two the original table based and the new html / css version look almost identical with a few text sizing differences and the way certain elements fit but unless you looked really close you couldn’t tell the difference between the two. Though without the knowledge base I have from taking time to learn how to write html and css I would of been completely lost and in some areas I was completely guessing but in the end I got it working. I just spent a day with Pinegrow converting a nighmare table based layout with inline css styles into a current standards based layout, in part just to see how easy it would be with Pinegrow and to be honest it was easier than using dreamweaver or other visual based designers I have used in the past. You still have to figure it all out yourself. It just provides immediate feedback of what works and what does not. ![]() I am not so sure the billing of Pinegrow as a instructional learn html and css is appropriate because it doesn’t actually teach you any of these things. For those people Pinegrow would NOT be the choice for a web editor / web page designer. Most people are not going to take the time to learn to hand code HTML, CSS or JavaScript they just aren’t going to do it. In any event, I look forward to playing with PG and see what I can decipher and then build off of! IMO They painted themselves into a corner by adding onto the legacy DTP layout code with additional layers and alternate views, while the times passed them by as new companies made it much easier. If anything I believe the entry level competition took what used to be the larger financial portion of the FW purchaser base because it just became too complicated and tweaky to create a modern looking site (responsive). But it is/was a vibrant and helpful community so if the desire to learn and improve was there - you would gain a lot from the generous help of the members. FW had many really advanced users that I personally would call rocket scientists - and some who didn’t know simple basics. So it’s a hobby and my learning approach has always been to backwards engineer sites to figure out what makes them tick and find the parts I wanted to recreate and add to my own. I don’t design sites professionally but do run quite a few. Vastly different, but my thoughts (right or wrong) are I could create visually faster in Sparkle and if I needed extensibility - PG would be able to take over. Of the list I decided to purchase PG and Sparkle. ![]() I mentioned I was coming from Freeway Pro and checking out other programs. ![]() This is a continuation of a side discussion that arose in this thread over in “Deals”
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